Edmonton Electrician | Fishing Wire And Cable In Walls Part 2


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Hi everyone and welcome to today’s edition of your Edmonton electrician where we bring customer service back to the trades
In today’s edition of your Edmonton electrician that we’re going to be talking about, fishing cables and fishing wires through walls and tight spaces.

At Hauer Power Electrical. We are happy you answer all of our customers questions and concerns. If you have a topic you want to hear about, we want to hear about that topic as your professional Edmonton electrician.

Our mission is to provide you with power through customer service. So our passion here at Hauer Power is living room, pot lights, kitchen, pot lights, recessed lighting.

Those led pot lights that you put in your ceiling are just the bee’s knees. When it comes to lighting in a living room, your average living room is going to have a switch lamp for the biggest room in the house and why they built it like that.

And we don’t know, but it makes for a great after the fact to put in pot lights. And that’s where we come in as your electrical contractor. We’re always happy to put in pot lights in your home or business.

Coming back to stud finders, there’s another method of stud finder you can have in a commercial facilities. It’s more common, a magnet ball. And what that magnet ball was gonna look like is it’s going to look like a little rubber band, almost a really thick, rigid rubber band with a rare earth magnet on the end.

And you can, you can slide out along the studs and when it finds a stud, it’s gonna, it’s gonna stick to that point in a wall. And then that way you can lay out your steel stud framing and see exactly where those studs are so you know where to fish through.

In a residential home, maybe you have wood construction. Again, you can still use magnets. There’s always a different type of magnet tools.

It’s got a magnet pole system and you can roll it on the wall and you’ll have a magnet in the wall and you can glide it down the wall through the use of the magnet. Now sometimes that’ll work with insulation. Sometimes it won’t.

If you’re ever fishing through insulation, you don’t want to drill, you don’t want to spend your bit because it’s just going to bind up with all that insulation and just make a mess. Then when you pull that insulation out, you’re going to have a cold spot in your wall and you might damage your vapor barrier, which could create mold issues down the line down the road, and you don’t want either of those issues.

When you’re drilling through an insulated wall to fish cables in insulated wall, you always want to drill counterclockwise. If you need to drill at all, if you do need to drill forward, you might face some issues with insulation pilled up. Just bear that in mind when you’re drilling through your walls.

Another thing too, you’re going to encounter how oftentimes if we do a nest thermostat or a maybe a nest doorbell or any smart doorbell or any smart thermostat, if you need an extra wire for it, you’re going to need to get down into your furnace room and get extra wire to your furnace.

Oftentimes what you’ll find is a fire block in between your thermostat and your furnace. Right in that middle of that wall, you’re going to have a fire block or a fire stop. Now, what that block is, is this going to be a two by four this perpendicular to your vertical studs, and that perpendicular two by four is going to impede you when you’re trying to fish cables down.

Otherwise you could just drop it down, drill a hole through that top plate, and then it’s going to come right down into your basement. But with this fire block, the fire stop, uh, there’s other methods around it.

If you use a flex bit and you push it through, if you don’t drill it through just right, you can bop through the drywall on each side. You know, at Howard power electrical, we have tricks of the trade such as a golf ball. You can put a golf ball through this flex bit and now it’s gonna provide the gap that distance needed between that drywall.

So you’re not drilling through the dry wall at the easiest corner, you’re going to drill through that fire stop where you want to drill through or you can use a tennis ball or you can use a bumper ball. They make all sorts of products that you can create your own product.

You can get as creative as you want with it, but these bumper balls or flex balls are going to help you a great deal when you’re trying to fish through fire blocks or fire stops in a residential home. Another thing to take note of is when you’re drilling through a firestorm or a fire caulk. You’re always going to want to fire caulk that if you can maybe with a gap filler expanding foam, if there is a fire, now that fire stop has been compromised.

In which case the fire can travel right through. And it just defeats the whole purpose of that in the first place. The fire stops purpose is so that if there’s a fire on one of the levels, it’s not going to rise or lower to the other level. And travel through the studs and just spread the fire.

It’s supposed to stop it, hence the fire stop. If you have the opportunity to fire cockpit that perfect, otherwise you can get expanded foam, fire stop fillers and those work just well to. Another thing to keep in mind with fish tapes is the most common thing that we like to do with fish tape.

And a lot of guys don’t do it. Um, it’s very simple though. We have two fish tapes and two guys or girls, one electrician on either end. And you’re going to tie a nest of, of twine wire onto this one fish tape and you’re going to have maybe three, four, five loops of this, of this twine at this rope around your one fish tape. Stick that through and your other fish tapes going to have a hook. And that hook’s going to be tight, but it’s going to have an open end on it.

And now when you’ve tried to match them through, instead of trying to line up two fish tapes together like that and pull it through, you’re going to be able to have a ball of nest and you’re going to have a better chance of catching a one of those twines and then pulling that through or pulling it through the other way, whichever is up to you. As an Edmonton electrician, that’s the number one method that we like to use for fishing.

It’s not invasive, it’s clean, and it typically doesn’t involve a whole lot of drilling. So that’s getting more into our methods of how we’d like to fish things through walls. When you do that flex bit that we were talking about with a fire stop, when you drill it, you run on a pulse, your fish stick down, your fish fishing, your rod, your shank bed, you’re gonna want to pulse that on the forward motion.

And then when you get to the back, you’re gonna want to grab it, pull it back, push it hard and slam it. That way you can feel that it’s into the wood. And it’s dug into the wood, then you can pause it through that wood and you’ll be able to feel the difference of whether it’s drilling through wood or whether it’s drilling through drywall.

If you can’t feel the difference, call your local professional electrical contractor because they will know the difference if they’ve experienced fishing cables in old homes and commercial facilities. That’s what we’re here for as your Edmonton electrician.

That’s what we do. That’s why you want to hire us. Now coming back to the masking tape layout, um, there’s another method some people do as a chalk line. Um, to Mark out your steps. You can see the structural integrity. You can see the stud layout and Mark it out that way.

The problem with a chalk line is just that cause it is chalk on your wall. Even if it’s white chalk, you, you can’t really see it too well. If it’s yellow chalk, now you’re going to have yellow lines on your ceiling. Some people just say you just can’t see it after, but if you look at it, you will see it.

And that’s not a professional method of installation. That’s why we use masking tape because it’s noninvasive, non-intrusive. It doesn’t damage your ceiling and we can remove it afterwards and no one can tell a thing. It looks just the same as it was before cause it was just tape doesn’t damage anything.

It clearly marks the layout. Masking tape is the way to go, says the Edmonton electrician. Ignore the chalk line. That’s not a good method. You just are going to make a mess of chalk everywhere in the home.

That’s why you want to hire us cause we do the right thing, the right method and maybe it costs a couple bucks for a roll of tape. Rather than a chalk line where you can use it a whole bunch and maybe it’s a little cheaper. That’s not worth it to us. We go for quality. That’s why we use quality products.

Back to another method. Um, you can do that wedge cutting drywall method where you have a cut, a strip of wood, real thin, maybe quarter inch wood, maybe a, maybe even a little, little thinner. But that wedge is going to work in really, really old homes. When you’re up in an attic and you have two pieces of drywall center, which together, but there’s a small gap in between. Maybe a fish tape is going to bounce around in there and not gonna work for you.

Or a same with a fish stick. Maybe just won’t work for you. But a chunk of wood, a solid piece of wood strip of it. You can drill a couple in the bottom of it, slam it down there. But whenever you get to a rough spot you can just push on it real hard and it’ll break through this method we don’t usually like to use just because, um, if you’re pushing on something hard and you want it to break through, what if you don’t know what it is?

Maybe it’s a plumbing line, maybe it’s a fitting, maybe it’s something hidden in the walls that was there 20 years ago and everyone forgot about. Um, you don’t always want to break those things, so maybe steer clear of that method. But it is out there. There is a proven method for it, but we don’t typically use that method very often as an Edmonton electrician.

We’ll find another way of doing it cause we don’t want to have to make you open up even more walls than you have to. Another thing you can find sometimes in older homes is a balloon framing home can be either framed balloon framing style or a directional framing style.

Directional framing that’s more common in today’s construction industry. A balloon framing style is where it’s more open a balloon framing style. It’s a breeze. It’s easy peasy. Sometimes you can find a channel on the top floor that goes all the way down to the basement.

In that channel you’re going to be able to fish whatever cables you want so you can get all the way down to your panel room and all the way up to your attic. And then you can fish cables all the way around your attic to where ever you need to go.

And that method is the bee’s knees when it comes to fishing cables for new circuits provided your panel has room for new circuits. If your panel does not have room for new circuits, call us where your professional Edmonton electrician and we are always happy to perform a service upgrade at a sub panel.

Do whatever we need to do to get you the power that you need to go on with your day, make your life easier. I think that just about kind of sums it up regarding phishing cables through your walls in your home or in your business. as always, if you need a residential electrician, call Hauer Power electrical. If you need a commercial electrician, that’s even better.
We love doing maintenance, electrical, and providing our customers with the best level of customer service that they can have. That’s our mission to give you power with customer service.

And that’s what we strive for everyday on every job site. As always, at Hauer Power electrical, we are happy to answer your questions, concerns, comments, or give you a free estimate. Give us a call, (780) 935-0622, or reach out to us at info@hauerpower.ca. If you haven’t seen our website, check it out. hauerpower.ca and, uh, get in touch with us today. See what we can do for you. We’re always happy to give you power. So as I always add an intend, take it easy and a WorkSafe out there have a great day.

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